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Tony
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posted on 07-04-2014 at 23:20 |
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Why Are So Many People Choosing To Leave The United States
Have things gotten so bad that it is time to leave the United States for good? That is a question that a lot of Americans are dealing with these days, and an increasing number of them are choosing to leave the country of their birth permanently. Some are doing it for tax reasons, some are doing it because they believe the future is brighter elsewhere, and others are doing it because they are very distressed about the direction that America is heading and they don't see any hope for a turnaround any time soon. Personally, I have several friends and contacts that regard themselves as "preppers" that have decided that the United States is too far gone to recover. They have moved their families out of the country and they never plan to return. As this nation continues to head down the very troubled road that it is currently on, this trend is probably only going to accelerate even more.
In fact, some Americans are even going so far as to renounce their citizenship when they leave. This represents only a small percentage of those that are leaving the country, but as Bloomberg recently reported, the number of Americans that renounced their citizenship in the second quarter of 2013 was six times larger than the number that renounced their citizenship in the second quarter of last year...
Americans renouncing U.S. citizenship surged sixfold in the second quarter from a year earlier as the government prepares to introduce tougher asset-disclosure rules.
Expatriates giving up their nationality at U.S. embassies climbed to 1,131 in the three months through June from 189 in the year-earlier period, according to Federal Register figures published today.
Renouncing the country of your birth is not an easy thing to do. From the moment that we come into this world, those of us born in this country are trained to think of ourselves as "Americans". The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Simon Black of the Sovereign Man blog...
It doesn’t matter where you’re from– the United States, Sweden, New Zealand, or Venezuela… many people all over the world are inculcated from birth with a sense that their country is ‘better’ than all the others.
We grow up with the songs, the flag waving, and the parades until the concept of motherland becomes deeply rooted in our emotional cores.
Not to mention, when so many of our friends and neighbors unquestionably fall in line, it’s a powerful social reinforcement that only strengthens the bond.
We come to view our nationalities rather ironically as a big piece of our core individuality. I am an American. I am a Canadian. I am an Austrian. Instead of– I am a human being.
It has taken decades… centuries even… to reach this point. So the fact that more and more people are making the gut-wrenching decision to ditch their US passports is truly a powerful trend.
Traditionally, the American people have been some of the most patriotic people on the face of the planet.
So why are we now seeing such an increase in the number of people choosing to leave the United States permanently?
Well, the truth is that there are a whole host of reasons why people are losing faith in this country and are deciding to leave...
-The U.S. economy has been steadily declining for many years and that decline now seems to be accelerating.
-We are being taxed into oblivion.
-The quality of the jobs in our economy is rapidly declining.
-The middle class is continually shrinking.
-Poverty is exploding.
-Escalating social decay in our major cities.
-Our culture is rapidly going down the toilet.
-Our health care system has become a complete mess and a giant money making scam. Obamacare is only going to make things even worse.
-Our politicians are tremendously corrupt, but the same clowns just keep getting sent back to D.C. over and over again.
-Our nation seems to be on a relentless march toward collectivism.
-America is rapidly turning into a "Big Brother" police state that is run by control freaks that seem obsessed with watching, tracking, monitoring and controlling virtually everything that we do.
Of course the list above could go on indefinitely, but hopefully I have made my point. A whole lot of people out there are absolutely horrified as they watch what is happening to America, and leaving the country for good is increasingly being viewed as a potential option by many.
But as tempting as "going Galt" may seem, please come up with a good plan first.
As one family recently discovered, hopping into a small boat and sailing off into the Pacific Ocean in search of a better life is probably not going to work out too well...
A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.
Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.
But just weeks into their journey, the Gastonguays hit a series of storms that damaged their small boat, leaving them adrift for weeks, unable to make progress. They were eventually picked up by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile where they are resting in a hotel in the port city of San Antonio.
Yes, life in America is definitely going to be extremely challenging in the years ahead, but the grass is not always greener on the other side of the planet either.
There are a whole host of things to consider before you make a permanent move to another country. The following is an extended excerpt from one of my previous articles...
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The following are 10 questions to ask yourself before you decide to move to another country...
Do You Speak The Language? If Not, How Will You Function?
If you do not speak the language of the country that you are moving to, that can create a huge problem. Just going to the store and buying some food will become a challenge. Every interaction that you have with anyone in that society will be strained, and your ability to integrate into the culture around you will be greatly limited.
How Will You Make A Living?
Unless you are independently wealthy, you will need to make money. In a foreign nation, it may be very difficult for you to find a job - especially one that pays as much as you are accustomed to making in the United States.
Will You Be Okay Without Your Family And Friends?
Being thousands of miles away from all of your family and friends can be extremely difficult. Will you be okay without them? And it can be difficult to survive in a foreign culture without any kind of a support system. Sometimes the people that most successfully move out of the country are those that do it as part of a larger group.
Have You Factored In Weather Patterns And Geological Instability?
As the globe becomes increasingly unstable, weather patterns and natural disasters are going to become a bigger factor in deciding where to live. For example, right now India is suffering through the worst drought that it has experienced in nearly 50 years. It would be very difficult to thrive in the middle of such an environment.
Many of those that are encouraging people to "escape from America" are pointing to Chile as an ideal place to relocate to. But there are thousands of significant earthquakes in Chile each year, and the entire nation lies directly along the "Ring of Fire" which is becoming increasingly unstable. That is something to keep in mind.
What Will You Do For Medical Care?
If you or someone in your family had a serious medical problem in the United States, you would know what to do. Yes, our health care system is incredibly messed up, but at least you would know that you could get the care that you needed if an emergency arose. Would the same be true in a foreign nation?
Are You Moving Into A High Crime Area?
Yes, crime is definitely on the rise in the United States. But in other areas where many preppers are moving to, crime is even worse. Mexico and certain areas of Central America are two examples of this. And in many foreign nations, the police are far more corrupt than they generally are in the United States.
In addition, many other nations have far stricter gun laws than the United States does, so your ability to defend your family may be greatly restricted.
So will your family truly be safe in the nation that you plan to take them to?
Are You Prepared For "Culture Shock"?
Moving to another country can be like moving to a different planet. After all, they don't call it "culture shock" for nothing.
If you do move to another country, you may quickly find that thousands of little things that you once took for granted in the U.S. are now very different.
And there is a very good chance that many of the "amenities" that you are accustomed to in the U.S. will not be available in a foreign nation and that your standard of living will go down.
So if you are thinking of moving somewhere else, you may want to visit first just to get an idea of what life would be like if you made the move.
What Freedoms and Liberties Will You Lose By Moving?
Yes, our liberties and our freedoms are being rapidly eroded in the United States. But in many other nations around the world things are much worse. You may find that there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" or "freedom of religion" in the country that you have decided to move to.
Is There A Possibility That The Country You Plan To Escape To Could Be Involved In A War At Some Point?
We are moving into a time of great geopolitical instability. If you move right into the middle of a future war zone, you might really regret it. If you do plan to move, try to find a country that is likely to avoid war for the foreseeable future.
When The Global Economy Collapses, Will You And Your Family Be Okay For Food?
What good will it be to leave the United States if you and your family run out of food?
Today, we are on the verge of a major global food crisis. Global food reserves are at their lowest level in nearly 40 years, and shifting global weather patterns are certainly not helping things.
And the global elite are rapidly getting more control over the global food supply. Today, between 75 and 90 percent of all international trade in grain is controlled by just four gigantic multinational food corporations.
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Leaving the United States permanently and setting up a new life in another country can be done, but it isn't for the faint of heart. It takes planning, preparation and lots of hard work.
However, there are lots of people that have done it successfully, including quite a number of people that I know personally.
In the end, you have got to make the decision that is right for you and your family. Don't let anyone else tell you what to do.
For many, staying in the United States and preparing for the tough years that are coming is the best choice. For others, getting out of the United States and heading for greener pastures is the right choice.
What about you?
What is your choice?
Please feel free to share your perspective by posting a comment below...
By Michael Snyder, on August 11th, 2013
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Aleesha
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posted on 04-20-2020 at 23:39 |
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Good post - long information
America can seem so toxic to your soul, I understand why many dream of leaving for some other place where the sun warms it instead. Here we live sophisticated lives fast paced without knowing neighbors.
I don't want to leave America, but I love travel and new places. Thats what brings me here to post lately.
There maybe other places better to exist than America, but I was born here and its home.
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issacc1965
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posted on 06-15-2020 at 16:40 |
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Quit Bashing My Country!
The only thing toxic is your attitude, Aleesha. America is the greatest civilization the world has ever experienced. And to you, this is toxic? SERIOUSLY!!!
America redefined everything, science, health, freedom, finance, education, travel, our understanding of space. We planted a goddamn flag on the surface of the moon for christsakes! Doen't that mean anything to you? Why aren't you proud, instead of toxic. You should be amazed at how fortunate you are to live in the USA. You little twit!
I love to travel, too, but only so I can return to America after I'm done. I love Latin America, but I would never live there permanently. That would be like trading a Porche for a VW.
Love your country. If you find toxicity, then come up with a cure instead of spewing your fatalistic bumrubble.
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muscleman1960
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posted on 06-15-2020 at 17:00 |
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Hey, Loud Mouth, Quiet Down
Just shut your piehole, Mr. Patriotism. Aleesha is entitled to her opinion, just like anyone else. I think the US can be toxic at times. If you don't acknowledge that point, you are a liar. We've got all kinds of problems here, from drugs to violence, crooked politicians, greed, and guys like you who like to push around little girls on a internet forum. I'm sure your transvestite father is very proud.
Sorry about that, Aleesha. You didn't have that kind of rudeness coming to you, IMHO.
And Mr. Patriot, one thing I will say...I love Latin America as well. Medellin and Cartagena most of all. The only difference between you and me on that issues...when I go there they treat me like a man while you are too afraid to act like one.
Put that in your gay little pipe and smoke it.
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carrollhodge
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Registered: 06-16-2020 Location: Redding, CA
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posted on 06-16-2020 at 10:43 |
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Leaving The USA
My father was an Air Force fighter mechanic who worked on bases all over the world. My siblings and I lived in Japan, Guam, western Europe, and the Philippines, to mention a few.
The expats I've known along the way were all friendly American patriots with adventurous spirits. They had their stories to tell, but I don't remember any badmouthing of America from them. I don't recall any talk of renouncing citizenship.
Leaving the USA is not the same as hating the USA. Hateful people can live anywhere. But economic circumstances can cause a move to outside the USA to areas where the dollar goes further during retirement. Retirement concerns are probably the biggest cause of expatriation, because the majority of expats are older,retired Americans.
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issacc1965
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posted on 06-16-2020 at 11:02 |
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If you leave America - you are scum!
So the economy gets bad. Then wring the tears from your hankerchief, Mary.
Things don't go your way. Curl into the fetal position, you big f-ing baby.
People who give up, leave, and become citizens of another country share one thing in common. They are cowardly quitters.
Leave your country for greener pastures, then die you f-ing cow.
You don't quit to make things better. You quit because you want to run away from your problems.
You deserve the pain you put yourself into.
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dirty2dbone
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posted on 06-16-2020 at 11:25 |
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Cant getaway now bitchs!!!
To all dem bitchs stuck in countries with lock down AHAHAHA BITCHS!!!! Didnt see THAT comin didya!!!!!
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