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jakeob
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Registered: 06-22-2003 Location:
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posted on 06-24-2003 at 16:46 |
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Can i just fly to russia and look for girls
Can i walk into an agency in russia and say lets look at your girls and pay a fee?
Who in the right mind sends Ł 800 pound up front to god nows who,any place in the world. then has a week off work flys to russia hopeing there cash has done some good.......neil
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tbochene
Junior Member
Posts: 15
Registered: 06-06-2003 Location:
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posted on 07-08-2003 at 17:19 |
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Hello jake- Yes of course you can just fly anywhere you want and chase the women, if that's all you want to do is chase, and you don't care much about the selection. Actually you can go to most any city in the world and hang out in the subway.
However their are some obvious problems. Do you know your way to the subway? Do you speak the language? Do you know local customs? Go to a muslim country and chase their women and you might end up dead and buried in a sand dune.
The point being, the only way to bring a girl home is to file for a visa to your country, and then marry her to keep her. MArriage is a big decision and should envlove some planning and forethought and that is best accomplished , usually through a good reputable tour company. Going with a group helps keep you focused and grounded. If you doubt me read the guy in the next post under yours "Should have gone on a tour." Of let me tell you some stories about guys who have tried to go it alone.
Sincerely Tony B.
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paul4cakes
Newbie
Posts: 2
Registered: 04-08-2005 Location: Dallas, Texas
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posted on 04-08-2005 at 17:26 |
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My russian girl got a visa but I am suspicious if its real; She's now asking for money for ticket,
Hello!!
I would very much appreciate your help if you give me some advise.
I have been coprrposponding with a 26 year old russian girl who wants the same thing as any russian girl who is interested in a foreign man: a better life and a marriage. Until recently we began taking interest in each other and I offered her a visit to USA. She accepted it gladly but came back with a very expensive travel plan. She met some travel agency who guranntees a visa for almost 2500 dollars. But the good part was that she was willing to accept half of the cost so according to her my liability is only 1200 dollars.
I have found out from other resources that a normal travel packsge from Russia to the US should not cost more than 1500-1600 $ for such a thing. Anyway I asked her to send me the contract she signed with this travel agency. she send me the copy in russian and I got it translated. I also asked her to provide her agent's address, she gave me that and I corresponded with the agent. The agent replied me back justifying the costs but never mentioned his/her name in the mail.
Today the girl got a US visa and has sent me a opy of the visa: there are a few things I am suspicious about:
1. The validity of the visa is only 3 months ( i know US embassy gives out at least for ONE year)
2. The sex is not mentioned on the visa that field is Empty.
3. The size of the picture is smaller than the prescribed size.
I have partial trust so I want to verify the visa. Also now since its important for the girl to buy the ticket righway per her contract, she is insisitng me to send money for the ticket.
While the agency says they can only accept cash and do not do accept credit cards and/or wire transfer. They do not even have a bank account no. the agent tells me that they are small company and do not have any facility for credit card/wire transfer.
This sounds fishy to me? can you advise me? I am very interesed in this girl but I sense something is not right in this episode.
Any help will be appreciated!!!
Sincerely yours,
Paul
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White Knight 730
Newbie
Posts: 2
Registered: 04-10-2005 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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posted on 04-10-2005 at 17:01 |
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Yikes! STOP! You are about to be scammed for all your money! This is a fake document scam.
First - the documents are not complete because they are not real. The U.S. Embassy will not give a single girl from Russia (or other CIS countries) a Visa, except under very specific circumstances. It has nothing to do with money or bribes. I would be happy to discuss this further with you, but please, please, please do not send the money. You will just lose it and she will disappear. It has happened many times. It is definitely a scam!
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White Knight 730
Newbie
Posts: 2
Registered: 04-10-2005 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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posted on 04-10-2005 at 17:49 |
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Dear Paul,
I'm sorry I wasn't able to complete the earlier posting, but I was busy. Although I do not know many of the specifics of your relationship and situation, I can all but guarantee you that you are the potential victim of a scam.
Russian girls can not visit the USA like Americans can go to Europe for a short tourist visit. There are only a few ways they can travel, and all involve a rather lengthy process. And the US Government does not have any special deals or relationships with foreign travel agencies based on $$$$. You can be sure of that.
The fact that your girl offered to pay for half of the ticket/visa is a typical CONfidence maneuver done to make it seem more legit and more sincere. It is anything but this. You yourself have noticed several "problems" and inconsistencies. Papers are almost but not quite filled out properly. $$ amounts are high. Visa can be obtained by providing extra money to the travel agent (this is the biggest tip-off).
The reality is that the only way to meet these women for the fist time is to go over and see them. They cannot come to visit you in the USA for the first time. There is a K-1 Visa that is good for 3 months - called a Fiancee Visa - (probably what she is trying to represent to you with the fake one) but it can only be obtained after much paperwork and proof that you and she have met and are sincerely considering getting married. Photos of you two together and a Responsibility Form filled out by you are just a few parts of the application. It is not created by giving a travel agent money!!
Paul, better to check on a flight to see her than to ever send money out of the country. There are many, many scammers out there and they are very sophisticated and patient. I know one guy who was written to for 6 months with love letters only to be scammed of $thousands in the end. There are also many sincere, onderful women out there who wouldn't think of asking for any money and are honest. Take off a few days from work and a weekend and fly over for a 2 or 3 day trip and you will learn a lot.
Good luck!
Dennis
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scl08816
Newbie
Posts: 9
Registered: 03-08-2004 Location: New York City
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posted on 04-16-2005 at 15:23 |
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Paul,
I agree with Dennis that you're being targetted. Do NOT send her any money. Not yet, not now, not like this.
You need to get up, go out and get on an airplane and go see her. What kind of gentleman makes the girl come to him for first contact? That is unheard of...
Russia is not some lawless country with warlords and criminals running the place. You merely need to take practical, generic precautions for going to an unfamiliar place. But, you still need to go to her. Visit her country. See her home. Meet her friends and family. Pretend she's like some regular girl, but with an awfully long commute.
If at all possible, consider a tour. Is there a tour near where your intended lives? If so, contact the tour company and maybe they can assist in inviting her to the socials. Of course, you must pay for her expenses. It is the norm there for the men to pay; this is NOT to be confused with saying that the women are cheap or are gold-diggers.
SCL
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chenpangpang
Newbie
Posts: 5
Registered: 06-02-2011 Location: florida
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posted on 06-02-2011 at 20:24 |
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happy
Paul, better to check on a flight to see her than to ever send money out of the country. There are many, many scammers out there and they are very sophisticated and patient. I know one guy who was written to for 6 months with love letters only to be scammed of $thousands in the end. There are also many sincere, onderful women out there who wouldn't think of asking for any money and are honest. Take off a few days from work and a weekend and fly over for a 2 or 3 day trip and you will learn a lot.
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salimoflaz
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Posts: 2
Registered: 02-13-2012 Location:
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posted on 02-13-2012 at 01:24 |
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Yes You can
My Facebook Fan Page here gives some information about regulating romance tours to russia or ukraine to date with russian women and ukrainian girls. Please have a look at.
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lisarobbinson
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Posts: 4
Registered: 02-14-2012 Location:
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posted on 02-22-2012 at 21:14 |
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of course not. it is too dangerous. and you should be mature and rational towards this question.
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